Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2015.02.16 23:32:00 -
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voidfaction wrote:DeadlyAztec11 wrote:Joel II X wrote:Shut up, Buwaro. Use damps. ^Screw this guy I understand the OP though. I feel like the quality of gameplay really went down the gutter when the active scanner was introduced. People used to need awareness. Now you just need a scanner. It puts people in weaker suits at an extreme disadvantage because scanners force you to fight people head on instead of on your terms. I can count on 1 hand how many times I have been scanned this week. The difference in HP stacking vs dampening I guess. My assaults all have 27db profile. that is one complex one basic dampener. You can stack hp but not dampeners and then come and complain about them.  Don't know why CCP made mods other than HP since that is the only ones people like you expect to use.
If TTK wasn't too damn short and anti-armor weapons weren't an over abundance in the battlefield, sure I would stack dampeners.
But knowing that Gallente Assaults are not that good and relly on good reps to stay alive, yeah.
On my shield suits I run dampeners on lows.
PS: I'm rocking a Federation Spartan. Which comes with one Dampener.
On top of that, all my Gallente Assault suits have less than 500 armor so I am not really stacking up on armor but on reps.
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Buwaro Draemon
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Posted - 2015.02.17 09:32:00 -
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EET SUM MOR wrote:Buwaro Draemon wrote:Okay, this is now getting annoying.
I understand the whole concept of EWAR. But when one perseon can keep permascanning (can provife 360 permascans if they have the right mouse) with no risk whatsoever. It needs to be changed.
Either take away the team share active scans or make it so whenever the activer scanner is used, the user is shown as a bright red dot on the map for all enemies to see. Right now it's too rewarding with little to no risks.
inb4 use dampeners Why are you complaining asking for a further EWAR nerf?? We've had enough limitations, EWAR is messed up already, just use dampeners and quit spamming tears around, go for a walk in the park instead... 
*sigh*
Story time.
Rattati nerfed the cloaks do to them being too rewarding and not enough risk. And by this time, people used similar responses to what you guys are saying now. I will quote them.
"Get gud"
"Use your eyes"
"Always look behind you"
"Run scanners"
Tho, many Scouts said that the only worth while cloak to use was the proto cloak. And the STD was utter crap.
Cloaks by then made a player invsible, while still maintaining their passive scans and the cloak offered a dampening bonus.
Almost all of this was nerfed because Rattti founded that Scouts running cloaks where far more on the rewarding side and too far away from the risk side. Even tho equipping a cloak benefitted one player.
Keep in mind that if a Scout wanted to run cloaks effectively they needed to have that Scout suit level 5 and proto cloaks to actually be of some use.
Now, with Gal Logis and active scanners it is all backwards. Tho, while the cloak only benefits one player, even back when Uprising 1.8 launched (when they where extremely OP only one player could benefit from the ude of a cloak). Active Scanners in the other hand, benefit the WHOLE team. Mix that with a Gal Logi and you have yourself scans that last a lot.
Now, the same but mirrored arguements are being brought up
"Run damps"
"Run a dampened scout"
"Kill the scanner"
With the same arguements used by scouts back then but just replace "scouts" with Gallente Logistic and "cloak" with "active scanner"
What do we get?
"The only way for a Gallente Logi to be effective with scans if i for him to have Galente Logistics at Level 5 and use Proto Active scanners to be anywhere near effective" see?
The Active scanner has a cool down time, yes. But this is negated by equipping all equipment slots with scanners, sit in one spot and just provide endless scans that the whole team can see for prolonged time.
Cloaks were nerfed do to them being too rewarding and less risky. Well Gallente Logistics with active scanners are the same. Espcially in Ambush. That game mode was bad, but thanks to this scans being thrown everywhere having enemies already storming my spawn area before my team even spawns there.
All I am asking is for when a scan is thrown, there should be a bright red dot where the scanner threw the scan. That way there will be at least some risk involved into this tactic.
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